Lemire Arena Council

2007-04-16 [Blood Raven]: I'm thinking those Arena pages will land on their feet alright... :)

2007-04-16 [Veltzeh]: Maybe you should specify what arena pages you will want to do, too. No one else wants to do any deciding? :P

2007-04-16 [Sturmi]: shouldn't Duredhel say who'll be deciding?

2007-04-16 [Veltzeh]: Hmm, I thought we get to decide that too, but it's not like he couldn't edit it when he checks this out X)

2007-04-17 [Blood Raven]: I think the people who're trainee GMs classify for making decisions. Of course, people like [Adaman] who've run their own wikis for years could easily apply for the job, but they might be busy with aforementioned wikis.

2007-04-20 [Sturmi]: we should hurry with this... people are getting impatient... [Silverbullet] and [Lepellier], what pages would you like to have?

2007-04-20 [Lepellier]: just slap me behind a few and I can probably have a good idea of how to run them.

2007-04-29 [Sturmi]: okay... the training areas need to be taken care of, and the other places around the colosseum as well

2007-04-29 [Orey]: I can take care of training areas.

2007-04-30 [Silverbullet]: Do you want Training area 2 also, Orey?
I can always take an area outside the colosseum instead.

2007-04-30 [Veltzeh]: I can pretty much take any areas that are left over.

2007-04-30 [Orey]: Sure. And someone asked me if there are going to be any posting during this period? Some people are getting impatient and some who want to join....... but aren't sure whats going on. lol

2007-04-30 [Orey]: Oh and I'll take over the Bulletin Board to as well

2007-04-30 [Veltzeh]: I'll start right now, but would someone please take the Pawn shop? I don't like Kudom XD

2007-04-30 [Veltzeh]: [Lepellier] and [Orey], pick some pages, please. [Orey], I don't think you can "take over" the bulletin board... it's supposed to be updated by everyone, pretty much. Then again, same's true for Bookies and stuff... Well, I'll just say it's an admin thing.

2007-05-01 [Sturmi]: okay I'll take the pawn shop

2007-05-01 [Silverbullet]: I've just realised that I'm completely clueless as to the various expenses the Stable's may require of characters.
I'll look through the histories soon enough, but in the meantime, there wouldn't happen to be a place with guidelines for this stuff somewhere, eh? ^^

2007-05-01 [Sturmi]: no, that's the problem...

2007-05-01 [Silverbullet]: Hmm, well most probable thing that will happen is that we'll have to improvise until Dur sets us straight. It will be during that time taht players will either suffer from unfair prices, or benefit from extremely cheap goodies ^____^

2007-05-01 [Sturmi]: okay, the list grew a bit larger but now we've sort of a list of most wikis we've got

2007-05-01 [Lepellier]: ugh...tired...I'll have to get around what I have on a later day.

2007-05-01 [Sturmi]: should we send players a message saying "hello everyone, the realms of lemire arena rpg is coming back to life, so you can come back to play again! We're sorry this de-frosting took so long. Please put a comment on the page your character got stuck in, so we can restart gaming. Thanks for the patience" signed, the lemire arena council ?

2007-05-01 [Lepellier]: something like that...I know Grengo's characters need to be dropped...but that might be a good idea.

2007-05-01 [Silverbullet]: I'm for it! I may have some free time tomorow, so I can go through the player list and send them the message!

2007-05-01 [Veltzeh]: Hmm, I don't think the Grounds areas like Asfeltas caves should be divided up like that... one person should take care of one or more areas as a whole.

2007-05-01 [Sturmi]: okay, [Silverbullet] you send the message!!

I think so too about the ground areas... I guess I could manage the Koe Islands, I played there before so I'm already watching most of the wikis there

2007-05-02 [Silverbullet]: The messages have been sent! ^_^
A few of the people I sent the message to have been gone for quite a while (25-45 days), so we may have to eventually think about going through the list of combatants and clean it up a bit. Eventually.

2007-05-02 [Veltzeh]: Yeah, I could probably clean it after a month.

2007-05-02 [Blood Raven]: [Lepellier], it would be best if you took up 1 area as a whole, instead of loose pages around different areas.

2007-05-02 [Veltzeh]: Yeah. Actually, screw it, I'm taking the Asfeltas caves! Ha! I sort of need them so I can properly take Tylien off the character list. Or would you have some problem with that, [Lepellier]?

2007-05-02 [Silverbullet]: Killing off Tylien?

Ah, and [Levoton] has informed me that she's dropping her chracters.
What happens with her items? Pawn shop gets them? And the Stables will get her pet?

2007-05-02 [Sturmi]: ...or they just disappear?

2007-05-02 [Veltzeh]: They disappear. Haven't you heard? NPCs have limitless supply of resources. :D
Oh and Tylien will be an NPC.

2007-05-02 [Silverbullet]: well that'd be a waste... It wouldn't be any worse than having her character stroll around the arena and give everything she owns to the first person she'd find.. yes?

2007-05-02 [Silverbullet]: Aaaaaaaah! Power to the NPCs! \m/ ^_^ \m/

2007-05-02 [Sturmi]: who'll take training areas 1,2,4 and 5?

2007-05-02 [Veltzeh]: [Silverbullet]: yeah, it's a waste, but honestly, what would a character do? They'd fly off and start a better life with their money. :D
[Orey] seems to have indicated that she'll take all the training areas, but where is she? :P

2007-05-02 [Sturmi]: okay... let's hope she'll appear back here soon. Veltz, will Tylien be staying permanently in the caves? or what's the plan

2007-05-02 [Veltzeh]: You'll see... though, if you need to know, I could explain it out, too.

2007-05-02 [Lepellier]: go ahead and take Asfeltas, I'll take The Rysallean Woods, if anyone else doesn't have a problem with that

2007-05-02 [Silverbullet]: I only found it fitting to take the desert, seeing I already have the caerhamian arena :P

And also, as armyboy mentionned in the realms of lemire arena, what about payday?

2007-05-03 [Silverbullet]: While you're around, Orey, a few people are waiting at the Training areas...

2007-05-03 [Veltzeh]: I can take care of pay day, too. I've been wondering when to have them... one good way would be to see how active the character's been and give money based on that, but it's dang hard to measure.

2007-05-03 [Blood Raven]: Just give out some cash at the 1st of each month... Mostp layers can't help being active or not anyway, the GM usually slows down more than the players.

2007-05-03 [Veltzeh]: Well, I decide the next pay day is on 1.6. X)

2007-05-03 [Blood Raven]: You're decisive leadership qualities overwhelm me. No, honestly, they really do. In fact, one's sitting on me right now :P

2007-05-03 [Veltzeh]: Give it back! ;D

2007-05-04 [Sturmi]: hum... there are no stats for Emilia of the mage tower NPC. Should I make them up?

2007-05-04 [Lepellier]: I'd say a lot of the NPC's could use stats...

2007-05-04 [Silverbullet]: NPC stats page, eh? I'll have to check that out for my NPCs.
But as for Emilia.. ehm, I guess you'd have to think them up yourself.. Except if it's for Byron's proposal, in which case she's doomed to lose seeing she has no stats

2007-05-04 [Sturmi]: lol, that's why I'm asking. Dur made the Realms of Lemire Arena NPCs wiki, and there's an Emilia wiki, but it belongs to someone elses Emilia. There's still many NPCs that don't have any stats though.

2007-05-04 [Silverbullet]: Yeah, the Smith (forgot his name) doesn't have any stats either.. We could always depend on the way we're feeling whenever we need to make a roll. If we feel generous or greedy, so be it.
What level would NPCs be, anyway?

2007-05-04 [Lepellier]: 20, I'd say. Just so no one gets the hair-brained Idea of trying to kill one :)

2007-05-04 [Silverbullet]: Hehe, maybe. I guess shopkeeps at an arena filled with fighters and killers should be ready to defend themselves ^_____^

2007-05-04 [Veltzeh]: Yeah, please make stats for your NPCs. I think the shopkeepers would be something around 15 levels (and they'd have good diplomacy skills :P), the trainers 20 and the referees 30.

2007-05-05 [Orey]: Yeah I'm here. I was reading all the stuff for a party. lol So I have all of the Training area and this lab thing? anything else you guys want to deal out??

2007-05-05 [Lepellier]: I'm thinking of expanding a few areas onto my zones

2007-05-05 [Lepellier]: There anyway we could think of possibly expanding the number of RoLA characters to 3? (I'd love it if we did :) )

2007-05-05 [Veltzeh]: Sure, I don't see why not.

2007-05-05 [Lepellier]: shweet

2007-05-06 [Duredhel]: *haunts* mebbe you should be tryin to net new players instead of just lettin the same old people make new charas. *haunts*

2007-05-06 [Sturmi]: right, we'll need a marketing campaign.

2007-05-06 [Silverbullet]: Hmm, if I recall, we had a "invite people and get XP" marketing campaign... that didn't fare too well..
Maybe we need to steal people from other RPGs?

2007-05-06 [Lepellier]: Hey, I just wanna make it look more active :-P  Anyhow, that recruitment thing didn't work too well.

2007-05-06 [Silverbullet]: Blunt force and kidnapping be the answer, I say!

2007-05-06 [Orey]: What about giving the new person something? I mean we tried giving already active members a bonus and it didn't work. Another idea would be to see if ROLA could be a feature on mainstreet??? I mean if thats what we could cook up.

2007-05-06 [Lepellier]: That would work...how about a 50g bonus to new players?

2007-05-06 [Veltzeh]: That's kind of the wrong kind of bonus... After all, people are supposed to get into it because they like role-playing/min-maxing.

2007-05-06 [Orey]: what about mainstreet??

2007-05-06 [Veltzeh]: That would do the trick. But despite being in the ET council, I can't really help with that. XD

2007-05-06 [Sturmi]: Who's in charge of that?

2007-05-07 [Orey]: Who should we talk to and if they can what should we say?

2007-05-08 [Veltzeh]: [Orey], will you really run the training areas?

2007-05-08 [Orey]: yeah I was having trouble getting on yesterday. I was haeding there no.

2007-05-14 [Silverbullet]: Does anyone here know what kind of food Hessa's supposed to say pets eat? Oo
The only refference to food I've found in the past postings of the stables said she told Bob what she needed and he made it..

2007-05-14 [Veltzeh]: Nah. I suspect we can play by common sense and say that cats eat meat.

2007-05-14 [Silverbullet]: Common sense it is! Now I'll just pas the problem over to Sturmi, cause she now has to decide how to price the meat! Bwahaha ^^

2007-05-14 [Blood Raven]: Why bother with feeding the pets? We don't even feed our characters... Besides, I thought the Arena was for combat, not in-depth roleplaying?

2007-05-14 [Silverbullet]: he's got a point ^^"
We could say the pets either go hunting in the Grounds whenever they're hungry... or maul off a bit of meat from the people their masters beat in the arena?

2007-05-15 [Sturmi]: yah, that's right, I'd say pets hunt by themselves. But there's the mess hall and Bob sells food, so characters should eat from time to time... to recover HP and MP if they dont want to sleep

2007-05-15 [Lepellier]: Well...I'll leave a post here...I'm going to start GM'ing an advanced party in RoL that I am opening to people that I know are talented RP'ers, such as all of yourselves. It's going to be a lvl 20 open party that is going to evolve around an adventuring group. The setting has not been finalized, nor has the setting. I am going to set out all the details after I recieve all the character applications for the party. The more you do on your character sheet, the happier I will be.

2007-05-15 [Blood Raven]: And I do believe we still have 2 unmanaged Arena's? Meh, hell with it, I'll take up those to. But keep in mind the arena will then be as fast as they were under Dur's reign :P
Which is about 1 post a day :P

2007-05-15 [Sturmi]: sort of master party 2.0?

2007-05-15 [Silverbullet]: XD

And I was so close to playing in Master party. My character was the bomb! Y_Y

2007-05-15 [Lepellier]: It's kinda like master party 2.0  I'm going to post links to the bios in the comments here when I get them, if anyone wants a sneak peek.

2007-05-15 [Silverbullet]: My character's psycology is coming along, armyboy. No class as of yet though.

2007-05-15 [Lepellier]: I have 2 people that are "yes"'s for joining so far. I will have my character posted some time today.

2007-05-15 [Silverbullet]: Coming along well then!
My full attention won't be on the character for your party until I've finished planning out the events for Party 7 a bit farther though. Right now I've just been thinking personalities over while on the job ^^

2007-05-15 [Lepellier]: works beautifully then :)

2007-05-16 [Sturmi]: I might create a character for your party as well...

2007-05-16 [Lepellier]: I'd be delighted to have you.

2007-05-29 [Duredhel]: Orey's been gone for 3 weeks with people waiting on her. You guys REALLY have to keep tabs on each other, if a GM is unreliable, just switch it out, specially if they're in charge of important or popular areas like the Training Areas, if yer gonna work this, you've got to be ruthless.

2007-05-30 [Sturmi]: gosh. I'll handle the training areas for now, so we don't keep players waiting. Help is welcome.

2007-05-30 [Duredhel]: Who's in charge of the temple catacombs, btw, I reckon there was a small group there.

2007-05-30 [Lepellier]: errr...I wanna say Veltzeh...But I'm wrong, It's BR.

2007-05-30 [Veltzeh]: Heh, just when I was about to take the training areas. X) Saves me the trouble!

2007-05-30 [Blood Raven]: Nobody ever gave me a shout they were still down there. I'll descend into the depths and see what I can salvage. Thanks for telling me.

And Mikah as indeed been waiting for like 4 weeks in TA 1

2007-06-01 [Lepellier]: Ok, well, I'm finally getting my version of Master Party 2.0 going into action! I know of 2 people that have joined (Myself and Silverbullet), and I need to start getting character apps to begin the gaming process. All characters will be lvl 20, and will be part of a travelling party through parts of Mount Ki'afisal.

2007-06-01 [Duredhel]: Geez guys, try to get some NEW people in instead of opening more parties with the SAME people wouldya? 

2007-06-08 [Veltzeh]: BR, are you watching the temple catacombs?

2007-06-09 [Lepellier]: BR went on what seems to be another vacation of his...so, Vel, maybe you wanna take over the arenas for a while? He's been gone 3 days...

2007-06-10 [Blood Raven]: I am, but I'm creating a general map of the catacombs before I'm gonna do the GMing, otherwise it'll just get messy. And every now and then, I won't be able to get online for 3 days straigth, so yeah, things could take a while.

I've got exams this week. After that, the worst part of my year is over, so I'll have more time.

2007-06-10 [Veltzeh]: Righty. Well, I'll take care of this zombie business, it's just a small thing anyway.

2007-06-10 [Lepellier]: alright, you think you may be back around to running the arenas this week? I have a character I'm waiting tostart, and would like to run him through a few matches in an arena...

2007-06-10 [Sturmi]: uhm, I've question/suggestion...... shouldn't characters win XP for completing a quest, aditionally to the reward?

2007-06-10 [Veltzeh]: I agree with that, good idea. :)

2007-06-11 [Lepellier]: I agree.

2007-06-11 [Silverbullet]: Don't characters gain XP from the battles quest usually put them through, though?
The way I see it, we should find some way to give incentive to do more Player vs Player battles.. that is what the Arena is supposed to be about.

Maybe put up a system that gives extra XP based on the way the character fought? Bonus for not getting a scratch, or bonus for fighting unarmed or something? Bonuses they wouldn't get from doing missions?

2007-06-11 [Lepellier]: well...if we had a more active Arena GM...

2007-06-11 [Silverbullet]: I have an arena...
Though that's another subject we might want to rethink.. Maybe each of us Council members should take on an arena? Instead of having one of us control the majority? Less downtime if one of us needs to be away..

2007-06-11 [Lepellier]: true...I'll take Decima if that's the case...

2007-06-11 [Sturmi]: I mean, there are some quests that not necesarily require a fight... (deliver a letter, find a date for Sciendo, turn Aura pink and so on). Sometimes the reward ain't enough motivation to take them, so maybe some XP would be good.

2007-06-12 [Sturmi]: Hello
I've a new suggestion - an easier one this time. We should make a gems index somewhere in the items index. How much worth are they, what properties they add to weapons/armor/perhaps other items when set on them... Dur if you're reading, we could use some help

2007-06-12 [Lepellier]: good point, we've seen Fire agates, moss stones (I think) and Peridot so far...

2007-06-12 [Veltzeh]: And another good idea. Hmm, they would probably go to Expendables.

2007-06-12 [Lepellier]: more than likely, I don't see them being accessories, armor, or weapons :)

2007-06-12 [Veltzeh]: Well, the other option would be a new wikipage.

2007-06-12 [Lepellier]: why waste adding a new wiki page? what would it be? Upgrades?

2007-06-12 [Silverbullet]: I say put them in the Expendables page.. If you find the need, maybe put a new section in the page..?

2007-06-13 [Lepellier]: I'd like to resuggest that we have some of us take over some of the Arenas until Blood Raven gets around and set a little more for being reliable for posts. I don't really wanna be rude, but...

2007-06-13 [Veltzeh]: Exactly, why waste adding a new page when they can go to Expendables? That was my point all the time really... I'll handle the arenas.

2007-06-13 [Lepellier]: Thank ye, Vel.

2007-06-13 [Sturmi]: I added some gems to the expendables, some don't have prices yet. Some of them I found looking around wikis, others I made up. Please comment.

2007-06-29 [Sturmi]: Hey, I'm GM'ing the beach right now... and there aren't many monsters I can make people fight with, aside from the kwall. Can I make up some giant crabs or a squid or a shark? Dur?

2007-06-29 [Lepellier]: Dur kinda went over this with Silverbullet earlier...just make up a creature page and send it to dur for approval, for the most part...

2007-06-29 [Veltzeh]: Redclaws, maybe?

2007-06-29 [Sturmi]: right... thanks [Lepellier].

2007-07-11 [Blood Raven]: Alright, I'm back-ish, but I will likely be gone from Saturday till Friday, because of a festival I want to go to. Coming few days I'll be busy with work and preparations, if nothing prevents me from going. So it seems I'll be leaving you guys in command of my few wiki's for a small while more. Dur still hasn't mailed me the maps of the first and second level of the temple catacombs, so you may keep nagging to him about that as well.

2007-07-26 [Blood Raven]: Sooo... I was just wondering... See, I kinda already gave entire authority over the temple away, and I'm appearing less and less on ET. The arena's I'm willing to manage, but at the temple, stuff seems to be going much smoother when I'm not in charge of it :S Who's taking over the temple? [Leita]?

2007-07-26 [Lepellier]: I'd give it to Silver, if he's willing to take it over.

2007-07-26 [Veltzeh]: I've been taking care of it for now, but whoever wants it can take it.

2007-07-26 [Lepellier]: I would, but I don't do well with temples...:P (Yeah, just a strange superstition)

2007-07-26 [Silverbullet]: Ehh, well I guess I can always take it, but I'd for sure need the catacomb maps and info on those dolls and whatnot :P

Also, should we name someone to be in charge of GM-posting when characters are trying to teach/learn? Or should it simply be the GM in charge of the location the teaching/learning is going on in?

2007-07-26 [Lepellier]: I say it should be whoever is in charge of that arena to post for teaching.

2007-07-26 [Sturmi]: yes, the one on charge there should do it. Though now I notice, it looks like no one is in charge of training area 5 (it's not on my list). That'd mean Veltzeh is in charge of it, right?

2007-07-26 [Veltzeh]: Yeah. Technically training area 5 doesn't need anyone to be in charge of it, so I look over it and decide when people learn things. X)
Also, the catacombs don't have maps, so you can just make it up yourself. Unless you somehow miraculously manage to get Dur to share them.

2007-07-26 [Silverbullet]: Hmkays, create own catacomb maps. Got it :P
What about those dolls?

2007-07-26 [Veltzeh]: Well, aren't most dolls on people now?

2007-07-26 [Silverbullet]: Hell if I know :/

2007-07-26 [Sturmi]: I think there are dolls of people who's not in game anymore, and dolls that got lost when those players stopped playing as well

2007-07-27 [Lepellier]: and there's new characters that don't have dolls yet, but anyhow, that's just a matter of switching around a few names and sayings.

2007-07-27 [Veltzeh]: Does someone want to fix that? X) Though, brining Claire dolls of dropped characters should work, too. No reason why they wouldn't.

2007-07-27 [Lepellier]: I would, possibly, but one thing that's stopping me...no one has ever given me the password to any of the pages.

2007-07-27 [Veltzeh]: I will.

2007-07-27 [Silverbullet]: How do I decide where to hide them dolls, and how do players know where to look?

2007-07-27 [Veltzeh]: Throw a dice, stick them randomly on characters or just go on a whim. :)

2007-07-27 [Silverbullet]: That doesn't explain how they'll know where to look...
Unless I make up clues, I doubt characters will be wandering around the arena doing search checks at ever corner and under every stone XD

2007-07-27 [Veltzeh]: Yeah, clues might actually be good.

2007-07-27 [Silverbullet]: Are there any still hidden out there?

2007-07-27 [Veltzeh]: I don't think so. Originally I think only Virul's was really hidden and the others were on characters. So I guess now Tylien's should be hidden in some obscure place...

2007-07-28 [Blood Raven]: maybe the mage tower could sell "Doll-detectors" which give a bleep when there's dolls around :P

And who's taking over the Temple?

2007-07-28 [Veltzeh]: I hope it's not me. >_>

2007-07-29 [Sturmi]: guys I won't be online much this weekend, since I've a visitor here these days and giving city tours and stuff takes a lot of time. I promise to be back on monday

2007-07-30 [Sturmi]: Is there a skill teaching prices guide for new arena GMs?

2007-07-30 [Silverbullet]: Hmm, yeah.. I have it somewhere. Just let me check ^^

2007-07-31 [Silverbullet]: Prize of skills go by tier, 150, 300 & 500 gold.

2007-09-03 [Duredhel]: O,o I noticed Sunny linked the Lemire art contest on the sidebar in the frontpage D: but the contest is kinda dead (lest someone wants to revive it :/ )

2007-09-04 [Orey]: This is Orey's husband. She broke her hand and has not been able to type. So if you guys would please stop sending her emails.... She hasn't been able to respond. She's sorry. And will talk to you in a few months when she can type. Thank you again.

2007-09-09 [Adaman]: Okay, there's a big issue. Dur approved the making of a new arena, the Xiadomian Arena. All the maps were updated to have a larger area, but with the graphics overlapping the grid, there's still a limited area which the fighters can actually move around in. No different than it was before, in most cases. The portals are also in the maps as well, and in some cases (like the Caerhamian one has golden hands) they look a bit different from one another. The main thing I'm asking is that someone please GM the Xiadomian Arena. It's pretty, and has a new ref which will be made by me if need be. Whoever GMs the arena can change the ref's name though if they prefer to make them.

2007-09-10 [Blood Raven]: I'm in for handling an arena, and making a referee for it.

2007-09-25 [American Revolutionary]: how can i join???

2007-09-25 [Veltzeh]: Read the main ROLA page for that.

2007-10-01 [Sturmi]: Hello Council!
We came up with a doubt with [Silverbullet], about badges & quests to get them: is anyone keeping track?
We should "start putting the type of mission a character completes in their badge area" (quote to Silverbullet). "Put something like "Retrieval x1", and then just add the hunter badge once he finishes another retrieval mission"

2007-10-01 [Silverbullet]: Hehe, I don't get quoted all that often. Thanks Sturmi!

2007-10-01 [Veltzeh]: Yeah, that's a good idea. This far I've just been assuming people (GMs) do it when it happens, but I realize some scores haven't been updated either... X)

2007-10-01 [Sturmi]: what scores?

2007-10-01 [Veltzeh]: Arena score, the number in front of everyone's name on the main page.

2007-10-01 [Sturmi]: ah true. I thought you would do that... heheh.
Okay, so we should add something like this to character wikis ->
Assasination quests or arena kills: 0
Retrieval or monster killing quests: 0
Aid or rescue quests: 0
Persuade or investigate quests: 0